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A old postin' #3630 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:22:02 Be quotin' 
I never want to have such a case like the crumb case on me again.

That was immensely infuriating.
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A old postin' #3631 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:24:58 Be quotin' 
Well done Jun & thank you. Only thing i would say is that you also need to be around at lynch deadline as mod.

As Ivelin correctly pointed out, he pretty much got a shafted by having to do mod's job on Rocco's lynch. It wasn't major in the end but a player shouldn't have to spend precious time pre-deadline having to do VC.
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A old postin' #3632 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:26:00 Be quotin' 
How ironic that it was nothing from either side. Mike, why did you decide to mention it? To make a false case?
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A old postin' #3633 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:27:41 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Tim Wagner @ July 29th 2017,19:22:02 )

I never want to have such a case like the crumb case on me again.

That was immensely infuriating.


I agree even though it was me that did actually kill Gareth. Had to be so careful with that aspect of Jasper's case. He was right but for the wrong reason.

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A old postin' #3634 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:28:42 Be quotin' 
Mike the last three games we've played together you've been scum. :)

Only the first we played together we were both VT but were lynched D1 (me) and killed N1 (you). :P
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A old postin' #3635 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:30:25 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ July 29th 2017,19:26:00 )

How ironic that it was nothing from either side. Mike, why did you decide to mention it?


If you mean the Jack Daniels non-crumb, that is what I would've done as town but I really didn't think it was going to escalate in the way that it did. However with Jasper being a newish player than I can see why it made sense to him.

No planning of a false case. Like I said I found it easier without day talk & just played as I would've done as town.

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A old postin' #3636 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:30:31 Be quotin' 
So next game has KP in the player list. I'm getting nervous already.
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A old postin' #3637 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:30:46 Be quotin' 
Can we all agree to not leave crumbs in any subsequent game? That way we'll not look for them and it will not deconcentrate us from actual scum hunting :P
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A old postin' #3638 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:32:03 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ July 29th 2017,19:28:42 )

Mike the last three games we've played together you've been scum. :)

Only the first we played together we were both VT but were lynched D1 (me) and killed N1 (you). :P


Brilliant.
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A old postin' #3639 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:35:53 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Tim Wagner @ July 25th 2017,19:38:51 )

Jimmy Mike Rocco would be a very sudden plottwist tbh.


It was, wasn't it :D
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A old postin' #3640 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:44:14 Be quotin' 
I can't believe Tim was so convinced though.

So many things were pointing at me not being scum.

Rocco saying I disappeared after being insta. Being perfectly reasonable as opposed to Jimmy. Killing Kirsty who believed me. The reasoning behind voting Riley over Jimmy was, as pointed out in the dead thread, too much attention on me for me to be scum.
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A old postin' #3641 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 19:51:46 Be quotin' 
That's the beauty of a non-info game. Mafia in the purest form. Too many people relying on PR's for them to be able to play.

It was a very good game for Jasper & Ahmet who both played a solid game when having to rely on their own work & not the definitive info provided by others.

I can put mafia to bed again for a while feeling quite pleased
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A old postin' #3642 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 20:39:01 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Mike Baston @ July 29th 2017,19:35:53 )

Quote ( Tim Wagner @ July 25th 2017,19:38:51 )

Jimmy Mike Rocco would be a very sudden plottwist tbh.

It was, wasn't it :D


That was the only time I was seriously considering that team. After that I digressed it because of two things:

You happily hopping on Jimmy's wagon D3.
Ivelin and me not getting hammered while voting each other after Andrei's modkill.
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A old postin' #3643 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 20:41:38 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ July 29th 2017,19:44:14 )

I can't believe Tim was so convinced though.


I was considering it was TvT for a while but after Andrei's modkill and the lack of quickhammer I thought it was impossible. That is why I was so convinced on the final game day - If we were both Town, scum would have quickhammered us.

Didn't expect Scum just missed it.


I should have gone with my "Gareth got killed so I think someone experienced is among scum" and just went straight for Mike tbh. It was a kill I expected someone with decent knowledge to do.
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A old postin' #3644 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 20:45:07 Be quotin' 
Cameron, I can see your reasoning behind fake-claiming FH, and I was thinking you were Town, but you had to be killed off. Someone caught lying always needs to be dealt with.

The main rule as Townie is: Don't lie. At all.

There may be some rare exceptions when you have a Powerrole, but usually it's the best to stay honest.
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A old postin' #3645 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 20:50:35 Be quotin' 
I have no problem playing a game with Cameron...maybe he will get the idea ;)
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A old postin' #3646 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 20:54:35 Be quotin' 
Me neither. I remember Jack Benson did something similiar in one of his first games and he improved on that afterwards.
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A old postin' #3647 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 21:07:58 Be quotin' 
Yeah I think Cameron deffo has potential and he is better than some of the people who have tried it here. At least he provides input and tries

He has said that he can't play my game though
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A old postin' #3648 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 22:36:29 Be quotin' 
Cameron was decent but should not have lied

Ivelin why did you claim FH?
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A old postin' #3649 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 22:43:17 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ July 29th 2017,22:36:29 )

Ivelin why did you claim FH?
I didn't lol. It was a joke. We had lost long time ago anyway. :P
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A old postin' #3650 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 22:47:22 Be quotin' 
lol
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A old postin' #3651 Spake upon Jul 29 2017, 23:21:15 ('t be edit'd Jul 29 2017, 23:21:56 by Rocco Stallone) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ July 29th 2017,18:10:40 )

I thiught yiu played really well Ahmet. Really good analytical play


yes, I was reading your Ahmet's thinking" wtf.. how does he know?" Lol
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A old postin' #3652 Spake upon Jul 31 2017, 02:01:47 Be quotin' 
I'm back from holiday.

First of all, thank you Jun for hosting. I found it a really enjoyable game and setup.

By the end of Day 3, Mike was obvious scum to me. I honestly don't see how he didn't get lynched. :P I wasn't on Rocco and Jimmy though, but I did like Ahmet's case on Rocco late Day 3, and I but Jimmy in my scum list after I died because I thought he was either FH or scum and he didn't claim FH.

Thanks for all the compliments. I did my best to play well and get killed before leaving on holiday. Also, VT is one of my favourite roles to play, so I enjoyed that.

I agree Ahmet played a very good game although your Rocco-hunt felt like tunnelling to me, until you finally wrapped up a proper case on Day 3. But I guess I was even worse in this respect.

Scum played well but on the other hand I think it was difficult for them to lose with Alex, Cameron and Andrei making town's life a lot harder than necessary.
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A old postin' #3653 Spake upon Aug 8 2017, 17:52:50 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Mike Baston @ July 29th 2017,18:50:21 )


Cameron - That's 3 games now & it seems like you've learned nothing. Perhaps you need to adopt the KISS principle if intend playing again.


You would say that. I am sorry if anyone has been alarmed by my actions, but I still think I did the right thing with the given information, and since Kirsty flipped to FH anyway I think my action of revealing myself when I did was justified. I'm still pretty new, but equally I'm not going to stand for being pushed around. I think if I was going to do the same game again I probably would have mostly stayed out of the action on D1.

Again, I feel as though I have at least apologised in the subsequent posts made in the relevant threads, and tried to explain my methods, and in that I feel that I have shown no malice or deliberate attempt to sabotage the town. For that reason, I would prefer if people were to move on and forget this ordeal, because I don't have any beef with anyone.
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A old postin' #3654 Spake upon Aug 8 2017, 17:55:56 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Tim Wagner @ July 29th 2017,20:45:07 )

Cameron, I can see your reasoning behind fake-claiming FH, and I was thinking you were Town, but you had to be killed off. Someone caught lying always needs to be dealt with.

The main rule as Townie is: Don't lie. At all.

There may be some rare exceptions when you have a Powerrole, but usually it's the best to stay honest.


I agree in that case that it was best for me to be lynched, but personally I think the town should be able to win by any means necessary that are not stated in the rules as being illegal. I only did what I did to try and improve the odds for town, and because I had been given an open door by Ahmet. Tell me what you would have done in my place if you had been put in that situation.
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A old postin' #3655 Spake upon Aug 8 2017, 18:20:10 Be quotin' 
Despite what I said in the immediate aftermath of the lynch, I would have you in a game I was modding and I would play with you again Cameron
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A old postin' #3656 Spake upon Aug 8 2017, 18:24:46 Be quotin' 
S'ok Cameron, we are all grown ups, no one holds grudges...just games get very intense and ppl (including me) get frustrated. Unlikely anyone has an issue with you still. It is much worse to join games and not play, or always need replacing. And ppl who do that are often given a chance to try again, no reason you wont be.
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A old postin' #3657 Spake upon Aug 8 2017, 18:37:33 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Cameron Halsall @ August 8th 2017,17:55:56 )

I agree in that case that it was best for me to be lynched, but personally I think the town should be able to win by any means necessary that are not stated in the rules as being illegal. I only did what I did to try and improve the odds for town, and because I had been given an open door by Ahmet. Tell me what you would have done in my place if you had been put in that situation.

Claim what you are i.e. VT, and if that got you lynched then tough luck, play better next time. Deflecting the lynch onto Alex the way you did had just as much chance of catching scum as lynching an actual town power role. It's a team game, and fake claiming when you're VT is just selfish. It also puts the whole town in a wrong direction.

Just don't ever fake claim as town again.
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A old postin' #3658 Spake upon Aug 8 2017, 18:54:11 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ August 8th 2017,18:20:10 )

Despite what I said in the immediate aftermath of the lynch, I would have you in a game I was modding and I would play with you again Cameron


I appreciate your forgiveness, thank you.
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A old postin' #3659 Spake upon Aug 8 2017, 19:08:01 Be quotin' 
Bad play is fine. Cheating, never, but being a silly muppet is fine. Tell them to go *&% themelves, Cameron. You played a silly twat game, and that's ok.

Or ban everyone.
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