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A old postin' #31 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:30:06 Be quotin' 
I did not say GPRO were in anyway responsible for this incident. What I am concerned about is that GPRO are charging 0.1 credits, effectively cash, to allow members to see the source of posts.
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A old postin' #32 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:31:49 Be quotin' 
Shocking news....again. My thoughts are with all concerned.


Quote ( David Preece @ May 23rd 2017,08:49:25 )

Disgusted to see GPRO benefiting from this awful crime by charging people wishing to see details of managers posts.
Yep, youve certainly got your priorites right. Shameful!
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A old postin' #33 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:35:31 ('t be edit'd May 23 2017, 13:57:34 by Mick Ridley) Be quotin' 
Old, yet very relevant:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-lo...

Sadiq Khan: terror attacks 'part and parcel' of living in a major city


yeah that Religion of Peace drug messes up your brain big time.
stay away from strong stuff.

I just cannot comprehend what can be holy in taking innocent human life.

Don't forget to donate blood people, it helps more than prayers.
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A old postin' #34 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:41:00 Be quotin' 
Quote ( David Preece @ May 23rd 2017,13:30:06 )

I did not say GPRO were in anyway responsible for this incident. What I am concerned about is that GPRO are charging 0.1 credits, effectively cash, to allow members to see the source of posts.


As others have pointed out above, the only thing that requires supporter credits is seeing the thumb ups/downs on a post. Posts are visible to all members, supporter or not. I think many of the forums are even viewable if you're not signed in.

You did not literally say they were responsible, yet you did say some other despicable things.

Some humility would be fitting, rather than relentless tries to justify or downplay those words.

But i think enough has been said about it already, apologies for derailing the actual goal of the thread again. Lets leave some room for people to express their thoughts and prayers (if applicable).

Speaking of prayers. I get it that many are non-religious (like me), but let's have people express their concerns in any way they see fit. Whether that's by donating blood or saying prayers, we're not to judge which is better or worse in my opinion.
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A old postin' #35 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:42:41 Be quotin' 
Quote ( David Preece @ May 23rd 2017,13:30:06 )

I did not say GPRO were in anyway responsible for this incident. What I am concerned about is that GPRO are charging 0.1 credits, effectively cash, to allow members to see the source of posts.

To see who liked the post, not the post itself. I'd be quite surprised if anybody wanted to pay to see that useless information. You can see Luke's post for free, or any other post. And can also pay to see thumbs on any other post as well. Don't single this one out.


Amazing job by the locals near the incident, it's great to see everyone there working together. Thoughts to the victims, stay strong everyone.
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A old postin' #36 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:53:39 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ May 23rd 2017,10:38:37 )

some sensibility would have been fitting, rather than the ridiculous rant above.

Sensibility? Well, I know one thing.... I'm sure glad Syria hasn't bombed us here in the states for the treatment of protesters in South Dakota, or for people in Flint, Michigan not having clean water to drink. But screw them, right? They kill us in places like this in the dozens, yet we go bomb their cities and kill them by the hundreds and thousands. If say Syria or Iran bombed New York City or London like the U.S. has done their cities, it'd immediately bring on World War III, so why are first world countries justified in doing it to these other countries?
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A old postin' #37 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:55:37 Be quotin' 
Not the place for this Daniel.
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A old postin' #38 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:57:24 Be quotin' 
I dont know how long you had been waiting for one of your trigger words to appear Daniel, but it seems your post has nothing else to do with me suggesting David could (should) be a bit more sensible rather than posting things such as "you're no better than the bombers"...
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A old postin' #39 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:57:48 Be quotin' 
To be honest, be honest. I disagree with Josh.
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A old postin' #40 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:58:42 Be quotin' 
Daniel, go rant somewhere else, where people who live in the area do not have to see you justifying it. It was just last night, people are still looking for their children, save it for a better time.
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A old postin' #41 Spake upon May 23 2017, 13:59:56 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Patrik Balogh @ May 23rd 2017,13:57:48 )

To be honest, be honest. I disagree with Josh.

I'm not saying I disagree with him, but talking about the justification of first world countries bombing third world countries in a thread where respect ought to be paid to the victims of a bombing that happened very recently is disgusting.
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A old postin' #42 Spake upon May 23 2017, 14:10:51 Be quotin' 
Daniel, shut up! Just shut up
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A old postin' #43 Spake upon May 23 2017, 14:12:11 ('t be edit'd May 23 2017, 14:17:47 by Jon Day) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Daniel Mason @ May 23rd 2017,14:08:13 )

Alright, where's the sympathy for people dying in Africa of starvation? I certainly don't see threads for them. Is it because the media doesn't report it?
Which means you havent started one? Shame on you for not doing that.

mind you, in your defence, youve only been playing gpro since 2007..and I know that these things can take time.
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A old postin' #44 Spake upon May 23 2017, 14:13:39 ('t be edit'd May 23 2017, 14:20:42 by Jaro Deren) Be quotin' 
So many fake news today... People are panic. Hopefully nothing gonna happens on Trafford Centre.
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A old postin' #45 Spake upon May 23 2017, 14:15:06 ('t be edit'd May 23 2017, 14:15:45 by Patrik Balogh) Be quotin' 
Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ May 23rd 2017,13:58:42 )

Daniel, go rant somewhere else, where people who live in the area do not have to see you justifying it. It was just last night, people are still looking for their children, save it for a better time.

Ok, woman empathy won.

Quote ( Josh Clark @ May 23rd 2017,13:59:56 )

I'm not saying I disagree with him, but talking about the justification of first world countries bombing third world countries in a thread where respect ought to be paid to the victims of a bombing that happened very recently is disgusting.

I would have an argument against you about the political situation, but it's also against the rules here.
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A old postin' #46 Spake upon May 23 2017, 14:25:36 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Jensen Owens @ May 23rd 2017,12:04:16 )

All Isis MF should die lets kill them all !


The problem is that it's exactly that attitude which has created the issue of terrorism. Historical management of the Middle East, through colonialist control bombing and suppressing the people, was the approach until the early 20th Century. Not much had changed since with the Iraq war and now Syria where the solution seems to be bomb them into the Western ideas of control. Events such as this happen in the Middle East happen daily due to UN sanctioned missions.

The solution was very much not to intervene in the region in the first place, now the best policy would be to leave the Middle East the control itself and hope the anger and resentment towards to west declined.

Anyway little rant out the way, it has to be said still that this is an aweful event and my thoughts lie very much with anyone who has been effected by this event.
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A old postin' #47 Spake upon May 23 2017, 14:34:11 Be quotin' 
This place really pisses me off at times.
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A old postin' #48 Spake upon May 23 2017, 15:09:03 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ May 23rd 2017,14:34:11 )

This place really pisses me off at times.


Look to the communities of Manchester, Liverpool and the surrounding areas who's selfless actions after the atrocity committed last night may help somewhat towards restoring your faith in humanity!
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A old postin' #49 Spake upon May 23 2017, 15:14:40 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Jon Day @ May 23rd 2017,14:12:11 )

Quote ( Daniel Mason @ May 23rd 2017,14:08:13 )

Alright, where's the sympathy for people dying in Africa of starvation? I certainly don't see threads for them. Is it because the media doesn't report it?

Which means you havent started one? Shame on you for not doing that.

mind you, in your defence, youve only been playing gpro since 2007..and I know that these things can take time.

A little research only finds one thread for an attack not on European soil. One could argue I'm not entering the correct keywords, so perhaps someone could prove me wrong? Besides, £100 says the media will report that ISIS claims responsibility for the attack, either by an immigrant that had ties to ISIS all along, or it's a homegrown terrorist (though the latter seems more common in the U.S. than elsewhere).

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A old postin' #50 Spake upon May 23 2017, 15:35:05 Be quotin' 
A little girl, 8 year-old, went to a concert last night. She went out just to have fun.

She won't be returning home today.

What else is there to say about last night's tragedy, after reading something like this in the papers? Nothing really. It's just mindblowing.



Quote ( Josh Clark @ May 23rd 2017,13:42:41 )

Amazing job by the locals near the incident, it's great to see everyone there working together.


I've read about it in our press. Bravo to them!



#StayStrongManchester
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A old postin' #51 Spake upon May 23 2017, 15:43:18 Be quotin' 
Please keep the politics out of the thread (regardless of your position on such things).

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Well done to the people of Manchester on their reaction. I have a fair bit of family down there and was in touch with some this morning, and had noticed the "check yourself safe" page on Facebook, and there are hundreds of posts with people offering food and drink, accommodation, travel or anything people are needing - more and more every single minute. It's a truly uplifting picture of true humanity.
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A old postin' #52 Spake upon May 23 2017, 15:58:53 Be quotin' 
Lived near and worked in Manchester City Centre for around 8 years, and was visiting around the time of the Arndale bombings. Terrible news.

Fantastic place to live and socialize in. I know the spirit of the people in the area. They will bounce back stronger.

My thoughts and prayers to everyone affected by this
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A old postin' #53 Spake upon May 23 2017, 16:03:09 Be quotin' 
people (children) in other coutries (middle east) go outside all the time and drones (and...) kill them, entire families. they dont even go to have fun, sometimes its just at their door.

most muslims dont agree with terrorism. we have voted for the people that murder innocents.
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A old postin' #54 Spake upon May 23 2017, 16:16:56 ('t be edit'd May 23 2017, 16:17:13 by Gareth Griffiths) Be quotin' 
Emy, Did you not read the first line of the post 2 above yours?

The loss of any life is tragic. People going to an Ariana Grande concert don't deserve this either
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A old postin' #55 Spake upon May 23 2017, 19:33:58 Be quotin' 
Heart goes out to all affected by this pointless brutality.

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A old postin' #56 Spake upon May 23 2017, 19:40:19 Be quotin' 
We have seen and heard of these things for years but for the first time I have been personally touched by it with someone I know. It leaves you numb and makes you think of the hundreds and thousands of people that it affects, beyond the dead and injured

Well done to the people of Manchester for pulling together. Great human spirit
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A old postin' #57 Spake upon May 23 2017, 20:18:33 Be quotin' 
Thought and compassion for the families of the victims of this terrible attack in Manchester

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A old postin' #58 Spake upon May 23 2017, 20:32:19 Be quotin' 
It's the same everytime. Whenever an attack happens, people shrug it off, claim to be "in solidarity", then do nothing to question how or why it happened. This is because they cannot bring themselves to accept that they could be wrong.
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A old postin' #59 Spake upon May 23 2017, 20:52:30 Be quotin' 
21 years ago, when I was a small child, 4 and a half years old, I vividly remember being at my grandparents house, just outside Manchester city centre, and hearing an loud explosion. The IRA had detonated a bomb on Cross Street, just outside the Marks and Spencer department store. For hours afterwards, I watched emergency vehicles, drive into the city centre.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/5d5b7f897cc945a85878a8dd88f4bc60...

This post box survived, despite being right next to the bomb, and has since become symbolic for the people of Manchester, resolute, and unaffected by tragedy. A plaque on the postbox commemorates the 1996 bombing.

Afterwards, it was business as usual for the people of Manchester, shops affected moved in with others, and shared the buildings, My grandparents neighbour returned to collect his bicycle, which had been chained up and appeared on television several times. The people of Manchester made the best of things whilst the city was rebuilt around us, and as someone who grew up around that rebuild, I can confirm that it took a hell of a long time.

Last night, the people of Manchester had to go through another atrocity, this time, a terrorist deliberately chose to target a place where a number of young children had gathered, at the MEN arena, only a few streets away from Cross Street, where the IRA targeted our city. Twice in the last 6 months, I have walked past the very spot where last nights bomb was detonated.

What has struck me the most was how the people of this great city have reacted. Local hotels took in children whos parents had not arrived to collect them. Taxi drivers, primarily of Muslim and Sikh origin worked all night for free, these type of people will always have a place in British society. Today the local blood donation centres are so overwhelmed with people volunteering to give blood that they are having to turn people away. Local cafes are providing free hot drinks to emergency services staff, local pizza shops provided free pizza at hospitals for staff and patients in the waiting room. The building I used to work at, a 5 minute walk from the blast opened its doors all night to those in need of a place to stay. My former colleagues erecting this message of solidarity on the roof.
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18581654_10211...

For the rest of us, including public servants such as myself, it was business as usual, to show that once again, we are resolute and unaffected by these acts of terrorism. We will rebuild again.

Manchester was a different place in 1996, but the people of Manchester have not changed, I've always been extremely proud of my city, but never more so than I am right now

As a city we stand together united.
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A old postin' #60 Spake upon May 23 2017, 21:18:08 Be quotin' 
Quote ( Jack Wemyss @ May 23rd 2017,20:52:30 )

21 years ago, when I was a small child, 4 and a half years old, I vividly remember being at my grandparents house, just outside Manchester city centre, and hearing an loud explosion. The IRA had detonated a bomb on Cross Street, just outside the Marks and Spencer department store. For hours afterwards, I watched emergency vehicles, drive into the city centre.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/5d5b7f897cc945a85878a8dd88f4bc60...

This post box survived, despite being right next to the bomb, and has since become symbolic for the people of Manchester, resolute, and unaffected by tragedy. A plaque on the postbox commemorates the 1996 bombing.

Afterwards, it was business as usual for the people of Manchester, shops affected moved in with others, and shared the buildings, My grandparents neighbour returned to collect his bicycle, which had been chained up and appeared on television several times. The people of Manchester made the best of things whilst the city was rebuilt around us, and as someone who grew up around that rebuild, I can confirm that it took a hell of a long time.

Last night, the people of Manchester had to go through another atrocity, this time, a terrorist deliberately chose to target a place where a number of young children had gathered, at the MEN arena, only a few streets away from Cross Street, where the IRA targeted our city. Twice in the last 6 months, I have walked past the very spot where last nights bomb was detonated.

What has struck me the most was how the people of this great city have reacted. Local hotels took in children whos parents had not arrived to collect them. Taxi drivers, primarily of Muslim and Sikh origin worked all night for free, these type of people will always have a place in British society. Today the local blood donation centres are so overwhelmed with people volunteering to give blood that they are having to turn people away. Local cafes are providing free hot drinks to emergency services staff, local pizza shops provided free pizza at hospitals for staff and patients in the waiting room. The building I used to work at, a 5 minute walk from the blast opened its doors all night to those in need of a place to stay. My former colleagues erecting this message of solidarity on the roof.
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18581654_10211...

For the rest of us, including public servants such as myself, it was business as usual, to show that once again, we are resolute and unaffected by these acts of terrorism. We will rebuild again.

Manchester was a different place in 1996, but the people of Manchester have not changed, I've always been extremely proud of my city, but never more so than I am right now

As a city we stand together united.


This needs to be said. It's this sort of attitude that allows such attacks to continue. Because we were able to talk with the IRA, peace was brought for Northern Ireland, and yet because nobody seems to want to talk about the true cause of Islamic terrorism (which is surprisingly Islam), People will have the pretence that everything is normal, and that nothing should be done. What is stopping us from standing up for our country, and demanding that the people who cause these attacks, who have no faith in traditional western values, should be suitably reprimanded? The humanitarian acts of the people of Manchester are certainly admirable, but what would have been more courageous still would be to have recognised the causes of terrorism, and voiced concerns to change the country to rid it of any possibility of succumbing to attacks. Unity means nothing if we are being destroyed by a radical and invasive culture which is antithetical to our own.
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