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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,02:01:34 ) I am still not swallowing that whole idea that Ahmet was waiting for Mike and Riley stuff that happened last gameday.
Why are you not swallowing it? Everyone who was in there at the time has confirmed that is what happened! Are we all lying? Is everyone in the QT scum?
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So you say this:
Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,02:01:34 ) Now i don't think i can lynch Riley today, i don't i will have the support for that,
But then you vote me:
Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,04:08:34 ) Screw this, i'm back at it.
##vote Riley
Not gonna sit and wait for other scum to deal with him while he plays us in my face.
Why are you bothering to put a vote on me that you think will be wasted? Why don't you spend your tie trying to find scum? Or is your win condition to get me lynched?
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Lyee, you know what pisses me off about you? You cme into thread and spout a load of nonsense about me. I respond to it all and ask you multiple questions in response and you just totally ignore my responses and what I have asked.
Could you please go back and answer my questions. Thanks
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Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 26th 2020,04:46:12 ) Riley, did you ever crumb anything in the thread? I mean on those stuff that you have revealed?
I did not crumb anything about my Poison Doctor shot beforehand. However, when Lech asked me if I was a normal doctor with a 1-shot of Poison Doc on one night I didnt answer (see below). I had been careful of the wording I used when I revealed my Poison Doc shot.
And I was careful not to leak anything obvious about my CPR doc shot. I was not even sure at the beginning of D2 if I was going to say anything. But here a few snippets:
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 20th 2020,09:13:23 ) I agree. I found her voting pattern very odd and her flip does not surprise me. It also increases my doubt of Martin
I also had no intention at that stage of revealing who I "protected" when you asked:
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 20th 2020,09:15:04 ) Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 20th 2020,07:33:24 )
Riley, who you protect last night?
None of your business!
I also could not help myself when Ahmet said about killing Kirsty on N1:
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 21st 2020,18:12:08 ) Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ March 21st 2020,17:25:54 )
Killing Kirsty on N1 is always tempting :D
Definitely
When Lech said I had claimed I was a normal doc on all but one night I queried that:
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 23rd 2020,16:43:23 ) Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 23rd 2020,16:10:41 )
To be fair, I also found it odd, especially as you used an argument that you are not a normal doctor, when if I understand correctly what you claimed you are a normal doctor all nights but one.
Did I say that?
So no I did not explicitly crumb anything. I didn't want to. But the above posts are an indication of what I knew
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Quote ( Tom Byrne @ March 26th 2020,06:53:42 ) I’ve mentioned it already at the time, but that CT stuff was really irky for me.
CT stuff? Sorry I am not with you
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Quote ( Tom Byrne @ March 26th 2020,06:53:21 ) #2131
Take note of the timing of those two quotes regarding CC’s and their times. The first was made in #1243, and the second occurred in #1250. Both in the lead up to 9:00 CET on the 17th.
I then don’t revote you until #1310, which is nearing Midday CET. I even said at the time, I had a think about everything and during that time I debriefed and didn’t feel good about your claim, despite what I had said in #1243 relating to non-role items. This in part, was Andre’s comment lodging itself in my brain and its ramifications of it playing out in my mind. Furthermore, note literally everything I have mentioned regarding vote counts at the time.
I get what you are saying and I don't want to go round and round in circles on this but suffice to say that we will have to agree to disagree on this one
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Quote ( Tom Byrne @ March 26th 2020,06:54:57 ) #2254<br data-children-count="0">That said, bastard mod could do anything, so... yeah.<br data-children-count="0"> Quote ( Tom Byrne @ March 26th 2020,06:55:24 ) ok thanks GPRO for confirming I'm not Riley.
LOL
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 26th 2020,11:05:46 ) CT stuff? Sorry I am not with you In the preceding moments to your initial claim, you were acting very concerned town over your lynch status. I mentioned it at the time.
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Quote ( Tom Byrne @ March 26th 2020,06:57:12 ) First, why drip the information out? Lets say that the votes don’t turn around D1, do you dump the rest out like this or let the role information die with you? I don’t see the advantage in drip feeding us.
I never planned to say reveal anything more than my Poison Doc role on D1. If I had died on N1 my flip would have revealed my role name (Protector-Of-All-Trades) which would have given people and idea of what abilities I had
I didn't want to reveal other info as I did not know at that stage what I might use. I was actually already leaning towards using CPR but just didn't know who I might use it on. If I had not used it on N1 and had survived I deffo did not want it out there as I may use it on N2 if a clearer scum had come to my mind and I if scum have a roleblocker I didn't want them to block me (either instead of or before killing me)
Quote ( Tom Byrne @ March 26th 2020,06:57:12 ) Second (and I won’t pressure you on this as its more a game mechanics question), how many abilities do you have?
I'm not sure whether to share this now. My gut feeling is that I am probably done for this game so I am reasonably happy to share. But I would like to hear opinions of others
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Quote ( Tom Byrne @ March 26th 2020,11:12:53 ) In the preceding moments to your initial claim, you were acting very concerned town over your lynch status. I mentioned it at the time.
Yeah, cos I am town and I was concerned.
I really did not get where the case on me was and I was concerned that I was going to end up having to claim my role which would not be good for town
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 26th 2020,08:09:33 ) Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 26th 2020,04:46:12 )
Riley, did you ever crumb anything in the thread? I mean on those stuff that you have revealed?
Nothing was revealed in QT before he said it in the thread. I had no idea that he's gonna go for Kirsty in any way, and after she died I asked there how could this be and Riley never said a word implying his actions before he posted it in here.
Why would I reveal it in the QT before I revealed it here? And give scum a heads up and time to prepare. And as I have already said I was not even sure at the beginning of D2 if I was going to reveal it
However, consider this:
Post 289: Ahmet said he had ideas about how Kirsty died but didn't want to say them because he thought there was scu in the QT
Post 299: I replied saying I would like to know his ideas and that I have my own
Post 321: Ahmet mentioned he was thinking of a role that could have saved me and killed Kirsty
Post 327: I replied that I thought I knew what role he meant (I assumed Bus Driver) but that was not what I think happened
All post references are to the QT of course, not this thread
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Andre, while I remember:
Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 21st 2020,15:39:25 ) There are a few snippets from Riley that now makes me feel like I should consider some different things. But i am not sure, i'm probably as confused as Lyee.
What happened with that?
Would you like to explain more about what your thinking was at that time?
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,10:29:18 ) Riley, why dis you choose to use tue CPR last night?
I think I had adequately covered this in posts today but if you think not then please come back to me
Basically I had a fair idea that I had caught a scum and whilst there was an element of uncertainty the fact that she may well attract an attack meant that reduced the likelihood of me killing a townie even further. Short of a Vigilante, it is unusual for a townie to have what effectively amounts to a killing role and I didn't want to waste it
I thought I was unlikely to survive the night so I decided to use it
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,10:41:43 ) Oh, and btw, if i was the lyncher you would already be lynched. It would take me to just have counterclaimed you on the spot on day1 and that's it. I even discussed it with Tim tou know? But yes, go read, you really need to.
Yeah fair point - although there would be no guarantee that I would have been lynched but it would probably have come down to me having my neck in the noose on balance
I guess I am just trying to think of reasons why you are being so blinkered. I just can't see you acting this way if you are town. Unless it is just total and extreme confirmation bias and not wanting to admit that you are wrong.
It bothers me because of the huge distraction that it is to town. I can't see you as town putting your own ego ahead of the town's best interests. But the again I have not played with you much and I know that Cameron has done such things himself
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On another subject, does anyone know why I said this:
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 20th 2020,15:13:29 ) If we ignore this "rule", we can get:
POLICEOFFICER
And there is every chance that we could have an insane cop in this game
And I mean other than the fact that this is a bastard game
I actually questioned Lech about it when he mentioned it:
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 21st 2020,12:27:55 ) Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 20th 2020,18:32:16 )
-Policeofficer/insane cop
Lech, why do you mention insane cop?
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In respect of the QT I personally think there is no harm in revealing the theme of the QT here now
Scum probably now all about it anyway and there is no benefit in hiding that info from the rest of town
Martin? Ahmet? Seb? Mike? Thoughts?
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Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 26th 2020,04:49:01 ) Just to highlight, Riley and Ahmet are the only 2 players interested with the mechanism of how loudmouth shout his visitors' name thus far.
Please quote the post where I have indicated this. I don't recall saying this
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 26th 2020,11:41:54 ) I actually questioned Lech about it when he mentioned it:
Missed it. I actually mentioned it because you did :) Your post that you just quoted made me believe that police officer = insane cop.
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Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 26th 2020,04:50:02 ) Has we already established that the 'poison' is relevant in this game? Or it is just Riley's hype?
No we haven't.
And it is not hype
I have a 1 shot Poison Doctor role. As I said originally that does not mean that we definitely have a Poisoner - this is a bastard game after all
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,10:41:43 ) It would take me to just have counterclaimed you on the spot on day1 and that's it. I even discussed it with Tim tou know?
Did you discuss it with Tim in here? I don't recall such thing...
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 26th 2020,10:52:27 ) I don't know why you felt the need to justify your vote on the basis of how many votes and who was on the wagon
I actually didn't intend to justify it this way, it was just my confirmation that there were no lynch candidates other than George.
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 26th 2020,11:43:20 ) In respect of the QT I personally think there is no harm in revealing the theme of the QT here now
Scum probably now all about it anyway and there is no benefit in hiding that info from the rest of town
Martin? Ahmet? Seb? Mike? Thoughts?
Personally I think it may us look like more like scums for some reason, but I'm fine with revealing it ;)
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But also I think some of the town players can already guess its theme...
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 26th 2020,11:51:16 ) Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,10:41:43 )
It would take me to just have counterclaimed you on the spot on day1 and that's it. I even discussed it with Tim tou know?
Did you discuss it with Tim in here? I don't recall such thing...
I have just been back through looking as I could not recall this either but could not find anything (it is difficult cos you can't search for "Tim"
Could you quote or state the post(s) please
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George, I believe that you didn't respond to this:
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 23rd 2020,13:10:22 ) Quote ( George Slater @ March 22nd 2020,23:37:46 )
Maybe looking back at Andre-Kirsty interactions would be a worthwhile endeavour.
Is this something that you are planning to do or are you suggesting that we should do it?
If you have done it, did you find anything of interest?
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No i cannot, you are gonna have to read and foby. And 'nuclear' was a good definition, i LOVED it (reading this Mike?).
But i will comment one thing though.
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 26th 2020,11:43:20 ) Martin? Ahmet? Seb? Mike? Thoughts?
I am fascinated but you people's democracy, really. It is inspiring. So much trust. I LOVE it (keep noting Mike).
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,12:48:31 ) No i cannot, you are gonna have to read and foby.
Thanks for your help Sweetheart! I LOVE you too ;)
It will be a while before I can look through. On a Zoom call now and I have another 2 this afternoon
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 26th 2020,12:48:31 ) I am fascinated but you people's democracy, really. It is inspiring. So much trust. I LOVE it (keep noting Mike).
It's not about democracy or trust
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Quote ( Mike Baston @ March 26th 2020,00:03:11 ) First off he posts lover in #99, #271 & #1901
Then if you do a search of his posts for the word 'love' you'll find numerous times where he uses it as describing his own feelings
In#1179 he asks Kirsty for help & again in #1266
In#1566 he mentions Kirsty being on side
Whist not totally conclusive they do have the feel of ulterior motive of gaining info, not just support.
#1902 feels like a warning
#1823references an actual episode title that I'll let you discover for yourselves.
On top of this who has been mentioning soft claiming the most in the game so far - yep Andre.
In summary I think he's looking for a particular character but for what reason or purpose I'm not sure. At a push I'd say his role involves one of the characters dying if they lynch or target the other but it maybe that only Andre has this as a role condition & other player has no knowledge of this.
This stuff is so wild I had to let it sink in. He who smelt it, dealt it.
##unvote George
##vote Mike
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 17th 2020,18:45:43 ) But since we are talking and you never responded: were you just speculating early on that i could be the Lyncher and Riley Lynchee? Because if that was the case he would be lynched most likely. I would have counterclaimed him just after his half-claim and you guys would really need to take a stand there. I wish i get to play as Lyncher one day, must be fun :D
FOUND IT!! (Amazing what happened when I searched for "Lyncher" LOL)
Yeah, you did say that sorry. I was looking more recently
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