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#1 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:05:47
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Hey guys im puzzled, did my Q2 in this coming race with wet tyres, no risk taken, standard procedure as always, however i passed 11s behind the pole, which is weird as the track is supposed to be wet, in the Q1 our difference was 1.6s, am i missing something here or this track is dry?
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#2 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:10:34
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The track's wet, so you're missing something. ;)
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#3 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:16:10
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Is funny because im on wet tyres, one of those :).......
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#4 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:19:29
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Either you accidentally went on dry tyres even though you thought you picked wets, or your driver is very bad in the rain (I actually think he's not too bad), or your car setup didn't suit the weather conditions at all.
Or you told your driver to take more risk than he could handle and he made a trip to the gravel trap at every corner. :P
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#5 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:28:08
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If i could i would send you a print screen, i went on wet tyres and just instructed the driver to keep the car on track, not heavy, just saying because our difference on q1 was not that massive, there is another guy on my grid who also passed 11s slower on q2, will see what happens
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#6 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:30:59
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Think driver mistake or your driver wasn't alright with your setup for Q2
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#7 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:38:04
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i always use the same setup for wet&dry and never saw such massive difference in times like this one, maybe driver mistake but even that would not take so many seconds
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#8 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:39:05
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If you go here /gb/Qualify2.asp
You actually can take a screenshot of your Q2 lap and it shows which tyres you ran I believe
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#9 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:45:38 (Editado em 28 Mar 2018, 14:46:54 por Jed Lilly)
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10s sounds about right for qualifying with a dry setup in a wet track, GPRO is a bit harsh in this situation, real F1 cars run on fairly similar setups wet and dry without much laptime difference (nowhere near 10 seconds).
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#10 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:46:10
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yeah but I mean there is a way I can post a pic here?
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#11 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:47:16
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Quote ( Jed Lilly @ March 28th 2018,14:45:38 ) 10s sounds about right for qualifying with a dry setup in a wet track, GPRO is a bit harsh in this situation, real F1 cars rub on fairly similar setups wet and dry without much naptime difference (nowhere near 10 seconds).
yeah but I'm doing that since always and always been competitive so..
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#12 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:50:42
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Quote ( Juca Santos @ March 28th 2018,14:46:10 ) yeah but I mean there is a way I can post a pic here?
If you can see that you ran wet tyres, people will believe you :p
Obviously other factors that influence your lap time, if you chose the right tyres.
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#13 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:53:12
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well one for the books :P....
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many factors may giustify this huge different ... wrong set up a very low stat of your driver mmm wrong fuel set these one for example ... i add wrong risk ^^
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#15 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 14:57:27
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Quote ( Jessica Trani @ March 28th 2018,14:53:52 ) many factors may giustify this huge different ... wrong set up a very low stat of your driver mmm wrong fuel set these one for example ... i add wrong risk ^^
thanks Jessica, can find real explanation, driver has 89% energy, car has new improved parts, I'm not loaded on fuel, I will see how the cars performs at the race to have a better understanding...
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#16 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:00:03
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you are welcome but energy at 89% doesn't influence the time .. there is another important stat but ... is FOBY i can't say anything more ^^ happy to help
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#17 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:02:37
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Surely setup related.
Hefty fuel load and a DM may make some difference too, but the bulk of the time diff will be car setup.
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#18 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:02:53
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Quote ( Jessica Trani @ March 28th 2018,15:00:03 ) you are welcome but energy at 89% doesn't influence the time .. there is another important stat but ... is FOBY i can't say anything more ^^ happy to help
I know which one you are talking about that works for the rain and my driver is quite alright with ;)
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#19 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:03:09
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Also I have the same questioning, I did my Q2 with rain tires, and there is a colleague who did the qualy I believe with the same rain tires and the difference was more than 10s faster, which is not possible in the game.
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#20 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:04:13
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Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ March 28th 2018,15:02:37 ) Surely setup related.
Hefty fuel load and a DM may make some difference too, but the bulk of the time diff will be car setup.
might be right but I'm not the only one passing miles away from the pole on the grid
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#21 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:04:39
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maybe you did some mistake with any part in qualify 2 :) it could happens ^^
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#22 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:05:15
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Because you're probably not the only one who doesn't know how to adjust the car setup for the weather conditions. Which is completely normal in Rookie. ;)
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yes is normal ^^ and is good to see also track info to know which risks can be used ^^
i'm afraid to go on FOBY zone ahahahah ^^ but i think is generic :)
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#24 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:08:33
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As already mentioned it could be a combination of reasons, and by process of elimination you should be able to workout what tthe main reason/s are?
But keep an open mind, just because things worked for you before doesn't mean they are always going to work so well on every track with different weather conditions.
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#25 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:08:54
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thanks guys really appreciate the feedback
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#26 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:10:10
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Quote ( Mark Philips @ March 28th 2018,15:08:33 ) As already mentioned it could be a combination of reasons, and by process of elimination you should be able to workout what tthe main reason/s are?
But keep an open mind, just because things worked for you before doesn't mean they are always going to work so well on every track with different weather conditions.
that's right :)
Quote ( Juca Santos @ March 28th 2018,15:08:54 ) thanks guys really appreciate the feedback
you are welcome ^^
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#27 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 15:47:33
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Quote ( Juca Santos @ March 28th 2018,14:47:16 ) yeah but I'm doing that since always and always been competitive so.. Most rookie managers do that so the difference isn't always that big. But certain drivers on a good dry to wet conversion can make a huge difference
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#28 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 20:23:48
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Quote ( Jed Lilly @ March 28th 2018,14:45:38 ) 10s sounds about right for qualifying with a dry setup in a wet track, GPRO is a bit harsh in this situation, real F1 cars run on fairly similar setups wet and dry without much laptime difference (nowhere near 10 seconds).
It's quite odd really, you lose more time with a dry setup on a wet track than a wet setup on a dry track.
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#29 colocada 28 Mar 2018, 21:00:41
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Quote ( Juca Santos @ March 28th 2018,14:38:04 ) i always use the same setup for wet&dry and never saw such massive difference in times like this one, maybe driver mistake but even that would not take so many seconds
Quote ( Carlos Sousa @ March 28th 2018,15:03:09 ) Also I have the same questioning, I did my Q2 with rain tires, and there is a colleague who did the qualy I believe with the same rain tires and the difference was more than 10s faster, which is not possible in the game. Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ March 28th 2018,15:05:15 ) Because you're probably not the only one who doesn't know how to adjust the car setup for the weather conditions. Which is completely normal in Rookie. ;) Quote ( Mark Philips @ March 28th 2018,15:08:33 ) As already mentioned it could be a combination of reasons, and by process of elimination you should be able to workout what tthe main reason/s are?
But keep an open mind, just because things worked for you before doesn't mean they are always going to work so well on every track with different weather conditions.
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Well if it makes you feel better, I am 17sec slower, though I was 3,5 sec slower in Q1 already.
I admit I am very surprised by this result.....
But I guess that is part of learning :-/
Edit:
Oh, and I did change setup from dry to rain. Though I admit I am not sure if I have the correct values.
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