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Старое сообщение #4861 Размещено 18 Июль 2015, 02:27:50 Цитата 
Quote ( Abhishek Bhardwaj @ July 18th 2015,02:22:58 )

Does anyone think that Sterling is worth of 50mn??


Nope. Nowhere near. Aguero was what, 32 million?? And is 1000x better. Sterling had about 60 chances last season and score 4 goals, 4. So glad he is gone from Liverpool :P Hopefully he can keep the bench warm and enjoy his 200k a week that could be spent somewhere in the english economy instead
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Старое сообщение #4862 Размещено 18 Июль 2015, 14:52:47 Цитата 
Borini, Lambert, Balotelli, Sturridge, Origi, Ings, Benteke.

The most strikers seen in Liverpool since the dockers in the 80s.
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Старое сообщение #4863 Размещено 18 Июль 2015, 15:00:53 Цитата 
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ July 18th 2015,14:52:47 )



The most strikers seen in Liverpool since the dockers in the 80s.


And will still be lucky to make the top 4.
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Старое сообщение #4864 Размещено 18 Июль 2015, 16:42:02 Цитата 
I agree, with Rodgers there
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Старое сообщение #4865 Размещено 18 Июль 2015, 16:43:57 Цитата 
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ July 18th 2015,14:52:47 )

Borini, Lambert, Balotelli, Sturridge, Origi, Ings, Benteke.

The most strikers seen in Liverpool since the dockers in the 80s.

...and about as productive as the average striker too. ;p
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Старое сообщение #4866 Размещено 18 Июль 2015, 16:53:17 Цитата 
And to believe that Milner was sold to Liverpool....Really ManC and PSG both suck at transfers!!
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Старое сообщение #4867 Размещено 18 Июль 2015, 17:15:11 Цитата 
Yeah, I've wanted Milner for years. We've shipped out a player 90% of our fans didn't like and they've given us one most of us do like
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Старое сообщение #4868 Размещено 31 Июль 2015, 22:13:20 Цитата 
Breaking news. Liverpool make 45 million bid for WBA Rickie Lambert
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Старое сообщение #4869 Размещено 6 Авг 2015, 15:33:11 Цитата 
Manchester United sold Angel di Maria to PSG for 63.5m. They bought him a year ago from Real Madrid for 85m.
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Старое сообщение #4870 Размещено 6 Авг 2015, 15:52:21 Цитата 
No they bought him for £ 59.6 mn
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Старое сообщение #4871 Размещено 6 Авг 2015, 15:52:52 Цитата 
Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ August 6th 2015,15:52:21 )

No they bought him for £ 59.6 mn

Which is 85m €.
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Старое сообщение #4872 Размещено 6 Авг 2015, 15:58:33 Цитата 
Oh you meant euros, : P

he wants to play in an easy league it's his loss tbh, the thief that broke into his house robbed his balls aswell it seems.
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Старое сообщение #4873 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 22:01:21 (последняя редакция 20 Фев 2016, 22:01:53 от Mairo Toom) Цитата 
BREAKING: Inter Milan Director Confirms Mourinho To Manchester United



Edit. Not that we haven't had talks about that for a long time already...
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Старое сообщение #4874 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 22:04:45 Цитата 
Actually, that was Moratti`s sister. And she has no role within the club. :P
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Старое сообщение #4875 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 22:31:33 Цитата 
Quote ( Mairo Toom @ February 20th 2016,22:01:21 )

Mourinho To Manchester United


Not sure it´s good for ManU, but it can´t get any worst!
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Старое сообщение #4876 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 22:32:28 Цитата 
Quote ( Mario Põldma @ February 20th 2016,22:31:33 )

but it can´t get any worst!


#Moyes.
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Старое сообщение #4877 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 22:36:39 (последняя редакция 20 Фев 2016, 22:36:51 от Marius Ruţa) Цитата 
As much as people like to get on Moyes` back, he has a better win ratio than van Gaal, and didn`t get to spend some 300million pounds on transfers either.
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Старое сообщение #4878 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 22:37:01 Цитата 
Well that's true.
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Старое сообщение #4879 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 22:49:14 (последняя редакция 20 Фев 2016, 22:49:56 от Stuart Foster) Цитата 
Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ February 20th 2016,22:36:39 )

didn`t get to spend some 300million pounds on transfers eithe


Well, would you really have wanted 10 players like Fellaini if he was given license to ? ;)
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Старое сообщение #4880 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 23:03:51 Цитата 
Van Gaal is a horrible spender, but he did create a younger squad which got about the same results as the squad under Moyes.

The amount he spent on players is just awful, and the cheapest of them all (Daley Blind) is probably the most consistent player of them all, not a star player.. but he's performing well in this team.

But are the expectations realistic? You can't build a premier league winning team in 2 years, not even with 300m pound. He was assigned to build a new, younger, squad and eventually become champions in three seasons time.. it's one hell of a task to achieve that.

Will things get better with Jose "Park the bus" Mourinho though? I don't expect much fireworks from him, although they probably need a coach with a softer approach towards the players after Van Gaal, because you can see the fun has been drained out of them.
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Старое сообщение #4881 Размещено 20 Фев 2016, 23:36:46 (последняя редакция 20 Фев 2016, 23:54:52 от Stuart Foster) Цитата 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ February 20th 2016,23:03:51 )

You can't build a premier league winning team in 2 years, not even with 300m pound


Kenny Dalglish did with Blackburn Rovers :)

also, in 1994, Alex Ferguson started the season with 5 players plucked from the academy and two new signings with Andy Cole and David May. Effectively, a new team. They won the league the following season.

Also, Real Madrid won La Liga in 2007 having signed 9 new players - the same season they lost Zidane thru retirement and Ronaldo thru... overweightness I guess?!

So, lets quit giving excuses to Van Gaal. His teams are boring as guck to watch and this philosphy he speaks of...I am not seeing much evidence of :)



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Старое сообщение #4882 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 00:08:57 Цитата 
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 20th 2016,23:36:46 )

Kenny Dalglish did with Blackburn Rovers :)

also, in 1994, Alex Ferguson started the season with 5 players plucked from the academy and two new signings with Andy Cole and David May. Effectively, a new team. They won the league the following season.


Prehistoric times, come on, you can't compare situations of 20-30 years ago with the current situation. If we do that, Van Gaal is still a top coach for nearly winning back to back Champions Leagues with Ajax in '95 and '96 (lost to Juventus on dope!).

Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 20th 2016,23:36:46 )

Also, Real Madrid won La Liga in 2007 having signed 9 new players - the same season they lost Zidane thru retirement and Ronaldo thru... overweightness I guess?!


La Liga can't be compared to the premier league. La Liga is dominated by two teams, with 3 teams that do decent about 10 points behind them.

Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 20th 2016,23:36:46 )

So, lets quit giving excuses to Van Gaal. His teams are boring as guck to watch and this philosphy he speaks of...I am not seeing much evidence of :)


I'm not giving excuses, he should've done a lot better, but the situation is being exaggerated big times. Change takes time, and in this case Man Utd needs to take a step or two backwards to get in the right direction again. I really do believe LvG is creating the base for that (the two steps backwards ;-) )
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Старое сообщение #4883 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 00:16:07 Цитата 
You only said :

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ February 20th 2016,23:03:51 )

You can't build a premier league winning team in 2 years


You didn't state any specific era.

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ February 21st 2016,00:08:57 )

Van Gaal is still a top coach for nearly winning back to back Champions Leagues with Ajax in '95 and '96 (lost to Juventus on dope!).


a top coach 20 years ago doesn't necessarily mean top coach today though :) He is way too old fashioned. He's a modern day George Graham. Actually a modern day George Graham would have less chance of sending the public to sleep. Maybe that's the idea behind his philosophy? :)
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Старое сообщение #4884 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 00:16:15 (последняя редакция 21 Фев 2016, 00:18:05 от Cristian Morales) Цитата 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ February 20th 2016,23:03:51 )

But are the expectations realistic? You can't build a premier league winning team in 2 years, not even with 300m pound. He was assigned to build a new, younger, squad and eventually become champions in three seasons time.. it's one hell of a task to achieve that.
really?

As far as I remember, De Gea is staying, that's something for the goal.
Darmian as a RB, buy me Garay or another good and not so expensive CB, plus Smalling, plus Shaw as a LB and Rojo because you know that Luke will get injured.
Put me Blind as a CDM right inbetween your centerbacks, Ander Herrera and Schneiderlin or another center midfielder (just not Schweinsteiger) behind Mata/Rooney distributing to Martial and another striker. I'm not sure if it can win the league, but it can probably do better and be more entertaining than LvG.

Nah, who am I kidding, for some reason he's there and I'm here

Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 21st 2016,00:16:07 )

Actually a modern day George Graham would have less chance of sending the public to sleep. Maybe that's the idea behind his philosophy? :)
If you don't see it live it doesn't happen? Sounds tasty
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Старое сообщение #4885 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 00:19:00 (последняя редакция 21 Фев 2016, 00:19:50 от Stuart Foster) Цитата 
Isn't it kind of ironic that 3/4 of the premier league teams could do with at least ONE centre back. Half of them probably two. There's nothing like the quality of defenders there used to be. Anywhere in world football that is, not just the PL.
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Старое сообщение #4886 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 00:21:43 Цитата 
Is LVG going to take a bung? If not then I see little in common with the boring boring Arsenal days. IIRC, didn't they actually have a damned good defensive record. Seven 1-0 wins on the bounce if lore is to be believed.

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Старое сообщение #4887 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 00:24:17 Цитата 
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 21st 2016,00:19:00 )


Isn't it kind of ironic that 3/4 of the premier league teams could do with at least ONE centre back.
I think United could do with just Rojo and Smalling, but I like Red on the left, and they can't find a way for Shaw not to get injured by the look of it, so either a center back or a left back, but they need someone there
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Старое сообщение #4888 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 00:24:19 Цитата 
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 21st 2016,00:16:07 )

a top coach 20 years ago doesn't necessarily mean top coach today though :)


Building a Premier League winning team in 1 or 2 seasons 25 years ago doesn't necessarily mean it's possible today though ;-)

Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 21st 2016,00:16:07 )

He is way too old fashioned. He's a modern day George Graham. Actually a modern day George Graham would have less chance of sending the public to sleep. Maybe that's the idea behind his philosophy? :)


I fully agree. I see the same happening at Ajax right now, endless passing the ball around, mainly in defence, never running at the defence, safe passes back.. I rarely watch games anymore, I even passed the opportunity to get a season ticket.. I think it also has to do with the quality of players.
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Старое сообщение #4889 Размещено 21 Фев 2016, 20:47:58 Цитата 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ February 21st 2016,00:08:57 )

La Liga can't be compared to the premier league. La Liga is dominated by two teams, with 3 teams that do decent about 10 points behind them.

Yeah, that`s why before the 37th matchday there was 4 teams still with a shot at the title. Barca and Real weren`t the teams they are today back then, Real Madrid nearly lost the title away to Zaragoza (who had Diego Milito), but Barcelona screwed up and drew Espanyol at home. And even on the last day, Real were 1-0 down to Mallorca after an hour of play and it wasn`t until Capello took Beckham off for Reyes (who went on to score a double) that Real sealed the win.

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ February 21st 2016,00:08:57 )

I'm not giving excuses, he should've done a lot better, but the situation is being exaggerated big times. Change takes time, and in this case Man Utd needs to take a step or two backwards to get in the right direction again. I really do believe LvG is creating the base for that (the two steps backwards ;-) )

You can take a step back and still be competitive. Look at United after they signed Rooney and Ronaldo, they didn`t win the Premier League for 3 , but still managed to qualify for Champions League football (and didn`t finish below 3rd, iirc). And that was 10 years ago, hardly prehistoric times.

Quote ( Stuart Foster @ February 21st 2016,00:19:00 )

There's nothing like the quality of defenders there used to be. Anywhere in world football that is, not just the PL.

This. David Luiz being the most expensive defender ever shows the current state of football. :)
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