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Stuart Foster
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Старое сообщение #31 Размещено 26 Март 2012, 12:51:21 Цитата 
there's some real pie munchers in rookie. the guy i've got is an athlete compared to the others i was looking at.
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Старое сообщение #32 Размещено 26 Март 2012, 13:19:22 Цитата 
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=7645

He's almost as Slim as I am!
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Старое сообщение #33 Размещено 26 Март 2012, 13:34:14 Цитата 
How does he dare to have Slim as his name?
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Старое сообщение #34 Размещено 26 Март 2012, 16:13:04 Цитата 
Driver weight is much more relevant to another driver attribute.

The weight of the driver and fuel may not be where you should be looking at this time.. :))
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Старое сообщение #35 Размещено 26 Март 2012, 16:15:00 Цитата 
nice job with your picture and avatar Roy
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Старое сообщение #36 Размещено 26 Март 2012, 16:18:01 Цитата 
note that in rain heavier cars have more grip :)
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Старое сообщение #37 Размещено 26 Март 2012, 16:25:32 (последняя редакция 26 Март 2012, 16:28:37 от Jon Day) Цитата 
Quote ( Nigel Hawken @ February 9th 2011,21:40:15 )

Fuel consumption does vary between drivers, I think it is logical that driver weight is one of the factors that would affect this
Oh man this is obviously where ive been going wrong all these season. :( :P
Quote ( Jeff-rey Lorenzo @ March 15th 2012,17:00:16 )

the risk strategy...
This totaly true...unless of course it not!
Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ March 26th 2012,16:13:04 )

Driver weight is much more relevant to another driver attribute.
Like whether or not he decides to stay in an "all you can eat" hotel instead of just B&B?
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Старое сообщение #38 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 00:53:24 Цитата 
I know much too little about F-1 to claim I am right, but doesn't driver's weight in real life F-1 affect Handling, rather than fuel consumption? I can't give the link, but I've read somewhere about drivers dropping weight before season, in order to allow more balance to the car (as not to exceed the combined weight limit). Would it be a violation of FOBY rules, if I asked if it's worthy investigating by myself, I guess by dropping a current driver and replacing with another, much heavier/lighter, if it might, to a degree, also be true in GPRO?

And another, related question (I've decided to ask, although I'm not sure if it's not a FOBY, and I am aware, that if I suspect it might be a FOBY, it probably is) - is "fuel consumption" info in the description of the particular race venue something, that experienced GPRO players can take advantage of?
In my 5 races so far I've already learned it definitely can't be taken at the face value (in fact, after my first 3 races I was under impression that someone didn't do a very good job translating "high" and "low" to my native language) . I've also found my own way to judge how much fuel use to expect (even managed to complete 2 races in a row with less than 10% of fuel left). And I would be disappointed, if the advanced F-1 game, which I suppose GPRO is, offered a shortcut to fuel consumption estimation unaffected by certain other features (to be Found Out By Myself).
But I just wonder, if it's possible to make any use of the above mentioned info, prior to having collected enough data from one's own races on each GP track, that the brief "fuel consumption low"/"fuel consumption medium" would be really of no practical importance.

Thank you in advance for any reply, even as short as "Q1=FOBY Q2=FOBY"
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Старое сообщение #39 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 01:32:13 Цитата 
The best FOBY-free advice I would give is:

Keep track of everything.
Join the mentor program. They can steer you in the right direction.
Almost nothing in this game is as simple as it seems.
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Старое сообщение #40 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 01:40:15 Цитата 
Probably indeed what I should do, join the mentor program. Especially because after 5 races completed already I don't have much time left :) Thanks for the advice.
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Старое сообщение #41 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 01:42:20 (последняя редакция 15 Май 2013, 01:43:06 от Roland Postle) Цитата 
I heard once that in F1 the driver weight won't generally reduce the car weight because the teams always have weight way under the rule limit anyway and make it up with ballast, but a lighter driver still gives more flexibility for placing more ballast around the car to affect the balance. For sure centre of gravity is critical, and I believe a lot of Red Bull's historic KERS problems arise from trying to pack the batteries too cleverly, and affect weight distribution (it's interesting that Webber as a taller/heavier driver seems to suffer KERS problems more, but that might be coincidental). When KERS was first introduced the extra weight did push some cars over the lower weight limit

The answers to your questions are, yes they both matter in GPRO. Apparently everything matters, the trick is to figure out how :)
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Старое сообщение #42 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 08:07:20 (последняя редакция 15 Май 2013, 08:09:22 от Cliff Rajgopaul) Цитата 
Quote ( Jacek Panek @ February 9th 2011,21:11:41 )

At the beginning - as a rookie in the game - let me greet all the managers.

As for my question, it is the following: whether - and to what extent - the weight of the driver affects the fuel consumption? Thank you for answers and understanding.


There are other more significant questions to ask instead of this one, if you catch my drift ;)

Start with: How does any weight affect lap time? Then TEST the effect...
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Старое сообщение #43 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 08:51:08 Цитата 
Cliff you are answering a question that was asked 28 months ago ;)
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Старое сообщение #44 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 10:17:25 Цитата 
Quote ( Jerzy Noworyta @ May 15th 2013,00:53:24 )

But I just wonder, if it's possible to make any use of the above mentioned info, prior to having collected enough data


Lol,better late than never Graham :P

I indirectly answered the above by using the initial one as reference.
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Старое сообщение #45 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 11:04:22 Цитата 
Quote ( Theo Poufinas @ February 9th 2011,21:20:18 )

why?:)

FOBY. ;p

Seriously, driver weight matters in other ways...
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Старое сообщение #46 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 11:31:10 Цитата 
Quote ( Jerzy Noworyta @ May 15th 2013,00:53:24 )

I know much too little about F-1 to claim I am right, but doesn't driver's weight in real life F-1 affect Handling, rather than fuel consumption? I can't give the link, but I've read somewhere about drivers dropping weight before season, in order to allow more balance to the car (as not to exceed the combined weight limit). Would it be a violation of FOBY rules, if I asked if it's worthy investigating by myself, I guess by dropping a current driver and replacing with another, much heavier/lighter, if it might, to a degree, also be true in GPRO?


It should be pretty easy through testing to work out if your assumption about driver weight affecting fuel consumption is true or not, you don't even need to change driver. Changing driver may bring other attribute changes so you couldn't be certain what the cause of any change is. Best go change as little as possible.

Quote ( Jerzy Noworyta @ May 15th 2013,00:53:24 )

And another, related question (I've decided to ask, although I'm not sure if it's not a FOBY, and I am aware, that if I suspect it might be a FOBY, it probably is) - is "fuel consumption" info in the description of the particular race venue something, that experienced GPRO players can take advantage of?


It's something any player can take advantage of, and more expereinced players probably won't use any more.

Each fuel consumption carries a range, so if two tracks are high fuel consumption, they won't necessarily have the same fuel consumption, but they will be in that "high bracket". What they brackets are and if they overlap with each other is for you to find out. As you get more data, you will be able to more accurately predict fuel for each track.

Remember to take track length in to account though. The fuel consumption indicator refers to rate of fuel consumption, and not total fuel, so it would be possible, to take an extreme example, for a high fuel consumption track to use less than a low fuel consumption track overall if the high track is only 100km and the low one is 500km long.

There are other factors that you need to take in to account to predict fuel consumption accurately, but learning that is part of the game.

Also, you will lose significantly less fuel on a wet track than on a dry track.
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Старое сообщение #47 Размещено 15 Май 2013, 11:58:00 Цитата 
Thank you Everyone who took time, to return to this old topic in response to my rookie questions. Your help is much appreciated. I've learned from your answers more, than I had hoped for.
Peter (Jerzy Noworyta, R400)
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