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#1 Размещено 1 Март 2014, 10:39:30
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I think it need to be added, besides the 4 consecutive races rule, the possibility to kick inactive team members (for free) for skipping 8 non consecutive races in a season If someone races 1 every four it cant't be kicked forever, lol
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Something very similar to this already exists under point 6.6 of the Game Rules. It does cost money though - so I'd advise you check it out anyway ;)
/gb/GPRORules.asp (6.6: Team vote out)
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#3 Размещено 1 Март 2014, 18:48:24
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Quote ( Josh Anderson @ March 1st 2014,11:10:04 ) Something very similar to this already exists under point 6.6 of the Game Rules. It does cost money though - so I'd advise you check it out anyway ;)
/gb/GPRORules.asp (6.6: Team vote out)
Mr. Anderson, You have a social security number, pay your taxes, and you... help your landlady carry out her garbage.
I was aware of that rule mr.Anderson, that's why i told "for free" in my first message
Nice try mr. Anderson, but thanks anyway
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#4 Размещено 1 Март 2014, 18:50:51
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#5 Размещено 1 Март 2014, 19:18:30
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Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 1st 2014,10:39:30 ) I think it need to be added, besides the 4 consecutive races rule, the possibility to kick inactive team members (for free) for skipping 8 non consecutive races in a season If someone races 1 every four it cant't be kicked forever, lol
I can see your point, and yeah missing half the season be it every other race has good grounds. The only pit full i can see is that it could be abused, if a team leader just didn't like some one that could just get rid of that person pretty much unfairly. If i could add something to the idea; If a manger misses 8 races in a season the team could have a free vote out
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#6 Размещено 1 Март 2014, 22:53:41
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Quote ( Darren Brookes @ March 1st 2014,19:18:30 ) Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 1st 2014,10:39:30 )
The only pit full
Is this some sort of new pit strategy where you can fill your pits up with lots of cool stuff that I'm unaware of?? :)
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#7 Размещено 1 Март 2014, 22:59:48
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It has been talked about lots of times before, the whole 'team contract' thing probably the most prominent example.
If they race only occasionally, ask them to leave the team of their own choice. If they are a 'decent' person, they probably will do so, if not, and it is that important to you, then there is a process.
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#8 Размещено 3 Март 2014, 08:55:22
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Quote ( Gordon Ashford @ March 1st 2014,22:59:48 ) It has been talked about lots of times before, the whole 'team contract' thing probably the most prominent example.
If they race only occasionally, ask them to leave the team of their own choice. If they are a 'decent' person, they probably will do so, if not, and it is that important to you, then there is a process.
It's not just another "talked about lots of times before" template answer, isn't it?
so we are talking about 8 races, it's about half season, not a temporary setback. how can someone abuse of it?
You know, it's a wild world, people aren't kind or decent at all and little or newly created teams cannot afford a selection entry like martini racing or other top teams, so we need to trust unknown players and their promises
Maybe the introduction of a binding pre application contract that must be signed by the applicants in which specifies how many races it can skipped before becoming kickable or a general rule set by the team leader regarding this issue can settle this?
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#9 Размещено 3 Март 2014, 11:54:50
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Had a situation years ago that led to 7 of us leaving and forming a new team, unfortunately nothing has changed since then. It is true that....
Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 3rd 2014,08:55:22 ) You know, it's a wild world, people aren't kind or decent at all and little or newly created teams cannot afford a selection entry like martini racing or other top teams, so we need to trust unknown players and their promises
Maybe it comes down to the fact that as in many things in life, those higher up forget that it can be a struggle when you're down at the bottom.
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This rule is so stupid! I mean, why should the whole team pay for the inactivity of 1 member?! It should be for free or at least a lot cheaper if the manager hasn´t logged in for a while or just participates in every 4th race!
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I wouldn't be against a change to the rules to allow a team leader to kick someone after missing a set number of races.
As Gordon says, most people would be happy enough to leave a team if asked under they kind of circumstances, but not really fair to punish a full team (by making them pay) to remove someone who isn't even racing reguarly and doesn't have the decency to leave when asked.
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A major problem, I feel, is that in order for these team votes to work you need to have a full roster of members in your team. I've a member who I've wanted out of my team for the last 6/7 seasons, but because we can never get more than 8 members in our team the votes are never successful. Not because people vote against it (barring the person you're voting out) but the system wants 8 yes votes for the vote to go through.
Wouldn't it be a better and fairer idea to have a percentage based system instead? At least then a specific percentage would have to be reached in order for a vote to take place. So if the percentage was 75% of the team voting, a team that has 4 members could still vote someone out.
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Quote ( Mick Burke @ March 3rd 2014,17:53:20 ) A major problem, I feel, is that in order for these team votes to work you need to have a full roster of members in your team. I've a member who I've wanted out of my team for the last 6/7 seasons, but because we can never get more than 8 members in our team the votes are never successful. Not because people vote against it (barring the person you're voting out) but the system wants 8 yes votes for the vote to go through.
Wouldn't it be a better and fairer idea to have a percentage based system instead? At least then a specific percentage would have to be reached in order for a vote to take place. So if the percentage was 75% of the team voting, a team that has 4 members could still vote someone out.
Been discussed at length in the past and I can't see it ever happening. And if your team isn't full, you don't need the free spot anyway. :)
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Still, this is ridiculous.
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Needing the free spot and wanting rid of deadwood that doesn't contribute are two different things, but it doesn't take a genius to work that one out.
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Quote ( Mark Witney @ March 3rd 2014,18:36:57 ) Needing the free spot and wanting rid of deadwood that doesn't contribute are two different things, but it doesn't take a genius to work that one out.
This.
Inactive, disruptive (or lets just say 'team members who didn't quite work out') who refuse to leave & stay hanging around aren't really conducive to a healthy team environment. It's hard to get stuck into new players about being active & posting data & stuff when there are people in the team that just don't. It would be like taking on a new starter at work & saying oh by the way - there's some people here that don't do any work but still get paid just ignore them - the new guy would be like wtf!? Doesn't look good, especially when trying to put a new team together.
Also if you've got condemned people on your roster who aren't strictly speaking part of your team then there are things you might not want to discuss on forums that they can see (ie tactics, knowledge) also you would resent splitting your team earnings with them at the end of the season.
So to say it's not an issue if you're not full is well wide of the mark imo. Maybe the vote-out should go on % of team members instead of quantity.
Or better yet if someone misses 5 races in a season (even if not consecutive) then enforce the auto-kick. Perfectly reasonable imo.
(personally 5 awols is a lot & more than reasonable, 2-3 is the most I could personally abide but that's just me)
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Quote ( Constantin Heller @ March 3rd 2014,15:50:24 ) This rule is so stupid! I mean, why should the whole team pay for the inactivity of 1 member?! It should be for free or at least a lot cheaper if the manager hasn´t logged in for a while or just participates in every 4th race!
You can kick a manager if he doesn´t race during 4 races, whe did it this season when a mate left the game but forgot to leave the team. I agree with what some say about a % for those teams who has not 10 tembers.
If someone is racing 1 out of each 4 races just to avoid you kicking him for free you should think about spending 1 Million each to kick him out, it´s not so freaking much and it worth it if that guy is behaving that way.
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 3rd 2014,19:36:06 ) Quote ( Constantin Heller @ March 3rd 2014,15:50:24 ) If someone is racing 1 out of each 4 races just to avoid you kicking him for free you should think about spending 1 Million each to kick him out, it´s not so freaking much and it worth it if that guy is behaving that way.
What a shallow attitude, maybe it's not much for a pro player like you but it's too much for a rookie player like me. Let's do math: team members aggregate is at least 3+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 which sum is 12 mil only to remove an inactive member.
Our team prize at the moment is about $6.704.004 so tell us why we shoud spend 12 mil. when we have 6 mil virtual cash at the end of the season.
GO SHERSH GO
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But what happens if that member is Team leader ? then you cant organise a vote out.Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 3rd 2014,19:36:06 ) If someone is racing 1 out of each 4 races just to avoid you kicking him for free you should think about spending 1 Million each to kick him out, it´s not so freaking much and it worth it if that guy is behaving that way.
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@Max: mi hai rubato le parole di bocca, you're damn right
@Michael: and what happens if that member is a mod or an admin or the Queen Elizabeth herself? That's a serious matter to discuss :D
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Your sarcasm is starting to scare me
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Quote ( Max Mango @ March 3rd 2014,20:03:24 ) What a shallow attitude, maybe it's not much for a pro player like you but it's too much for a rookie player like me.
Dear Max, in Rookie and Amateur is much more easier to do cash, so don´t tell me it´s not too much for a Pro and it is for a Rookie or an Amateur ;P It´s is suppose that in Rookie and Ama you can do cash easily, if you can´t afford 1 million you are obviously doing something wrong ;)
Quote ( Max Mango @ March 3rd 2014,20:03:24 ) Let's do math: team members aggregate is at least 3+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 which sum is 12 mil only to remove an inactive member.
You are doing maths in the way it is convenient for you, if you have a player wich apport nothing to your team, one million is nothing compared with the benefit of getting rid of him ;)
Quote ( Michael Jones @ March 3rd 2014,20:06:11 ) But what happens if that member is Team leader ? then you cant organise a vote out.
You can leave the team all for free and start another one or join one that already exists ;)
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ March 3rd 2014,18:10:17 ) Quote ( Mick Burke @ March 3rd 2014,17:53:20 )
A major problem, I feel, is that in order for these team votes to work you need to have a full roster of members in your team. I've a member who I've wanted out of my team for the last 6/7 seasons, but because we can never get more than 8 members in our team the votes are never successful. Not because people vote against it (barring the person you're voting out) but the system wants 8 yes votes for the vote to go through.
Wouldn't it be a better and fairer idea to have a percentage based system instead? At least then a specific percentage would have to be reached in order for a vote to take place. So if the percentage was 75% of the team voting, a team that has 4 members could still vote someone out.
Been discussed at length in the past and I can't see it ever happening. And if your team isn't full, you don't need the free spot anyway. :)
Yes they might not need the place, but it could harm recuritment, when some one is looking to join and check out the members and see that one doesn't hardly race. They may think that they are not that serious about the game and just let any one in. And not be active in helping each other out. Whuch is one of the main reasons people join a team
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Phil, I think you misunderstood me, I totally agree that someone should be kicked out if they are inactive etc.... How many you have in your team shouldn't matter and that was the point I was making to Keith.
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 3rd 2014,20:17:04 ) Quote ( Max Mango @ March 3rd 2014,20:03:24 )
What a shallow attitude, maybe it's not much for a pro player like you but it's too much for a rookie player like me.
Dear Max, in Rookie and Amateur is much more easier to do cash, so don´t tell me it´s not too much for a Pro and it is for a Rookie or an Amateur ;P It´s is suppose that in Rookie and Ama you can do cash easily, if you can´t afford 1 million you are obviously doing something wrong ;)
Please, check it before talking /gb/MoneyLevels.asp?Group=Rookie%20-%20132
Still i don't want to waste any money on this, not even 1 milion, for kicking inactive players So, if he will issue a vote, I will not vote at all and i told it before to Scarliga. And if he insists doing so he will lose his 3 mil+1 mil
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Quote ( Max Mango @ March 3rd 2014,20:23:23 ) Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 3rd 2014,20:17:04 )
Quote ( Max Mango @ March 3rd 2014,20:03:24 ) any money on this, not even 1 milion, for kicking inactive players So, if he will issue a vote, I will not vote at all and i told it before to Scarliga. And if he insists doing so he will lose his 3 mil+1 mil
YOU...SHALL...VOTE... or i will ask on suggestions forum for a new rule just to kick you out :D
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#28 Размещено 3 Март 2014, 20:26:01 (последняя редакция 3 Март 2014, 20:26:19 от Paul Hughes)
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What about if the team leader becomes inactive? Can the other managers have the right to kick him? "Viva la revolution"!!!
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Quote ( Max Mango @ March 3rd 2014,20:23:23 ) Please, check it before talking /gb/MoneyLevels.asp?Group=Rookie%20-%20132
LOL I could use your way of thinking and provide you links to all those Rookie groups where managers have more than 50 millions, but then I´m sure you would come with the links to all those groups where managers are simply wasting money.
So, OK, you win, game is wrong, you are right, and everything you can´t manage should be fixed to be like you want it ;P
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Quote ( Darren Brookes @ March 3rd 2014,20:18:00 ) Yes they might not need the place, but it could harm recuritment, when some one is looking to join and check out the members and see that one doesn't hardly race. They may think that they are not that serious about the game and just let any one in. And not be active in helping each other out. Whuch is one of the main reasons people join a team
You seemed to have missed me supporting the idea for allowing someone to be kicked for missing a set number of races.
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