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Тема: defend your position against one specific driver |
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#1 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 13:27:07
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Hi guys, about defense, so we have in the strategy the option to '' Select a team mate to let thought '' and also we can opt to have high risks when defending but this applies to all drivers at the race, but i was wondering if would be a good idea if we could add an option to choose one specific manager in our group and tag it as '' do your upmost to not let his driver overtake'' even if you decide to go with zero defense risk? this way u can target your main competitor in the cup or points, like you would do in ''real life''.
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#2 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 13:53:08
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I really like this idea, adds some degree of realism. However I feel like this would lead to issues where you'd for example always just use 100 blocking risk against your cup opponent and 0 risks otherwise or where all drivers in a group just target the championship leader.
Also I'm not sure if we need blocking trains to become even worse just because the guy at the front targeted the 2nd placed
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#3 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 14:04:14
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My basic problem is that this option is focusing on making a negative impact on someone else's career instead of making some positive on yours. This feature could be easily exploited in the wrong way.
Quote ( Constantin Heller @ February 22nd 2019,13:53:08 ) Also I'm not sure if we need blocking trains to become even worse just because the guy at the front targeted the 2nd placed
Or forcing the fastest driver to finish last behind the smoking competitor.
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#4 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 14:07:50
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One specific manger of group for a single specific race could be good.
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#5 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 14:12:26
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#6 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 14:15:54
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#7 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 14:22:34
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Quote ( Constantin Heller @ February 22nd 2019,13:53:08 ) I really like this idea, adds some degree of realism. However I feel like this would lead to issues where you'd for example always just use 100 blocking risk against your cup opponent and 0 risks otherwise or where all drivers in a group just target the championship leader.
Also I'm not sure if we need blocking trains to become even worse just because the guy at the front targeted the 2nd placed
I know I am not racing anymore, but what can be done is make it in such a way that if I were to select a driver, my own driver will use x + 20 risks when defending from him/her.
So if I select 0 defence risk, I will use 20 risk against that driver, if I select 20 defence risk it will be 40 risk etc. That way you won't get extreme stuff like your example. The "x + 20" can be chosen as any other number if 20 is too much or too little.
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#8 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 14:28:21
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Quote ( Wopke Hoekstra @ February 22nd 2019,14:22:34 ) my own driver will use x + 20 risks when defending from him/her. thats a good idea
Quote ( Gergely Kondár @ February 22nd 2019,14:04:14 ) Or forcing the fastest driver to finish last behind the smoking competitor.
i guess in this case the smoked car will end up overtake eventually as the difference in pace are massive, also should not work against lapped cars etc..
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#9 Размещено 22 Фев 2019, 14:28:45
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you can use a high defense risk and apply to all managers, simply your pilot wastes their energy resources
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Quote ( Gergely Kondár @ February 22nd 2019,14:04:14 ) This feature could be easily exploited in the wrong way.
This. I can easily imagine some scenarios with teammates in the same group.
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Quote ( Gabriel Arbona @ February 22nd 2019,14:28:45 ) you can use a high defense risk and apply to all managers, simply your pilot wastes their energy resources if i understood well the point is to focus your energy and resources in one driver and not the whole pack
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So what if the same car is chosen to be blocked by more than one manager?
The group leader could be excessively blocked by the remaining top ten. Hardly seems fair.
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It will surely add to group dynamics even if in a negative way. Atleast there will be some sort of grouping within group, more interaction more fun :P
Let the devils come out in open :D
This feature can also be made one time use option per season.
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Quote ( Chris Lee @ February 22nd 2019,14:30:58 ) So what if the same car is chosen to be blocked by more than one manager?
The group leader could be excessively blocked by the remaining top ten. Hardly seems fair. i dont think many people are that friendly within its group and chit chat around, i barely speak wtih people in my group, even worst to architecture some master plan to block the leader, from my experience no one helps anyone, if i cant be champion i would not help the next guy and i would have nothing to win by block the leader so these ''pack attacks'' is less likely to happen
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Great when you're with half a team in Elite. Edifice will love it.
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Okay, but what if we did the opposite? Allowing to push more against one specific driver? That should avoid those many bad-case scenarios
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Quote ( Sharma Vivek @ February 22nd 2019,14:38:50 ) It will surely add to group dynamics even if in a negative way. Atleast there will be some sort of grouping within group, more interaction more fun :P
Let the devils come out in open :D
I have a feeling Keeney wouldn't like such a feature.
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Quote ( Chris Lee @ February 22nd 2019,14:30:58 ) So what if the same car is chosen to be blocked by more than one manager?
The group leader could be excessively blocked by the remaining top ten. Hardly seems fair.
can easily been avoided, just by only giving it a 1 time option…. meaning, driver A can block driver B, but the rest in that group can't use it anymore...
but I wouldn't like this anyway, it's sometimes already hard enough to pass another driver and if you use this option it would become impossible, because the last driver on the grid can block the #1 on the grid and would stack all behind that into eachother
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I would be more interested in rivalries that grew naturally over time. There's one manager in my group that I've now raced close to 170 times, nearly ten seasons in the same group.
It could be interesting and somewhat enjoyable if after so many races there was some rivalry and bad blood programmed into the game where our race teams would race each other a little harder on the track.
Whether that is possible or not I have no idea, but it would seem a less gameable option than the one suggested in the OP.
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Quote ( Patrick Paarhuis @ February 22nd 2019,14:48:39 ) impossible, because the last driver on the grid can block the #1 on the grid and would stack all behind that into eachother i mean you would still be able to overtake, it would only be bit more difficult, is not like a death sentence or meaning you would be stuck forever
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Quote ( Sven Bojkowski @ February 22nd 2019,14:50:15 ) It could be interesting and somewhat enjoyable if after so many races there was some rivalry and bad blood programmed into the game where our race teams would race each other a little harder on the track.
How about some friendship instead? ;-)
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Edifice doesn't need such things to success.
On the other hand, objectively speaking, this should totally be implemented :P
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Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ February 22nd 2019,14:55:42 ) How about some friendship instead? ;-)
Friendship? This isn't the Grand Prix Friendship Online. This is a competition. Charles Bronson didn't need any friends in any of his movies. Real men work alone. Like Joan Ferguson. She was dominating and ruthless until Terri Malone burst onto the scene. Her friendship ruined Joan.
No no Tomek. Never have friends. You could learn a lot from Juca a few posts above. He does it the right way. No friends, no conversations. Just total focus on competing and making life miserable for other people. That is how you enjoy life.
Besides, people interested in "being friends" have that option already with letting their team mates overtake (team orders are the worst).
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If you add that idea, increase the chance of driver mistake's, to the manager who's actively blocking one specific manager to balance it out. If you are willing to do so, be prepared to get punished in driver mistake's by choosing wrong risks.
And especially increase of DM's in Very Hard and Hard overtaking track's, because that extra blocking in those can lead to serious blocking train.
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IMHO pretty much the last thing gpro needs is more ways to block.
Quote ( Dainius Vaškys @ February 22nd 2019,15:21:56 ) increase the chance of driver mistake's, to the manager who's actively blocking
This is something which could be considered anyways, even without adding ways to block
Quote ( Dainius Vaškys @ February 22nd 2019,15:21:56 ) because that extra blocking in those can lead to serious blocking train.
Anyone who's done a bit more races have already seen that happen, even without "extra blocking"
It might not be apparent at rookie, where the drivers laptimes can vary quite a bit, but overtaking isn't really all that easy, so there's really no need for any "extra blocking"
One or two group-levels higher the drivers don't make so many "mini-mistakes" but instead gain consistency in laptimes, blocking/overtaking is quite different than in rookie
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then the blocked manager should be able to exercise a greater risk of overshoot at that time
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