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Quote ( Andrea Squizzato @ June 9th 2020,11:21:24 ) @Martino Colombo (E) culone
the Pole is lost, I have to win the race :)
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Win will go to Bert, but you can battle with Andreas for other podium positions. I got enough lucky points so far :)
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ok! but I don't care about the podium, I already got it, good look! :)
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Quote ( Martino Colombo @ June 9th 2020,18:49:54 ) ok! but I don't care about the podium, I already got it, good LUCK! :)
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Quote ( Andrea Squizzato @ June 9th 2020,18:45:17 ) Win will go to Bert, but you can battle with Andreas for other podium positions. I got enough lucky points so far :)
I wish I shared your optimism, I'm was hoping on podium today. I expect different race strategies. We will see in an hour.
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ June 9th 2020,21:32:19 ) Jasper must be squirting right now.
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Yeah squirting sweat from my armpits... Crazy end of the race!
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Jasper has taken an option on the title. It will take some time, but great pace indeed.
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ June 9th 2020,21:36:53 ) Yeah squirting sweat from my armpits... Crazy end of the race!
It was fun to watch (maybe less for Postle, but bots don't have feelings)
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Quote ( Bert Huylebroeck @ June 9th 2020,21:46:02 ) It was fun to watch (maybe less for Postle, but bots don't have feelings)
LOL, First of all congrats to Jasper! I would rather see Martino win, but that's biased because he's from my team. On the other side I'm once again very happy that our tools & predictions made this possible. We'll still have a way to go, but for the 2nd time it proves we're on the right track ;)
Congrats for Martino too on 2nd!
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ June 5th 2020,23:18:45 ) I wonder what will be next,..40°C or rain?
I was wrong...it is not "or"...it is "and" :)
Admins start to drink to much during corona virus.
This is not funny nor interesting any more.
Congrats Jasper...what a win :) !!!!
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Congrats Jasper, nice pace!
Didn't expect this podium, meh... I will go in holiday now, playing with Jan and Florencia for 40th
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Another 30C race? What the heck is seriously happening this season? Did the game engine break after Spa? :D
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Quote ( Andreas Ramann @ June 9th 2020,23:07:12 ) Another 30C race? What the heck is seriously happening this season? Did the game engine break after Spa? :D
Don't worry Andreas, I expect all 10°C races after this one
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I expect more 30C temp races after this one. We haven't had enough hot races this season... Who uses any cold tyres? I mean that Avonn price reduction surely made Avonns a better pick this season, they just got baited. :D
Oh hey we have rain, but Bridges don't mind it anyway. :')
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0/3/76 and maintain position....
Given the 1 hour per race available due to RL i will have to say goodbye to "competitive" racing guys
Luck factor in elite needs rescheduling and is scewed when you are in a borderline position
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Shame to see strong managers quit because of randoms/luck factor..
Come on Vlad, do something before it's too late..
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It's cruel for everybody. Without the randoms the top 4 would propably would all be within 2 points of eachother.
I can feel your pain.
Someone (I know who, but don't know if he wants his name attached to this) once wrote in forum: "Making such changes that only work help a small portion of managers while being unfair in design most of the time is not good game design I think."
Randoms are not good game design.
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Well I fell I have now earned the right to post here 😁
The problem I have with randoms is this:
GPRO is about planning and management, you can't plan for randoms.
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Yes you can and every successful manager does.
Randoms are cruel and sometimes it hits someone really hard but without them this game would be boring as hell.
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Quote ( Joachim Rang @ June 12th 2020,22:28:33 ) Yes you can and every successful manager does.
Randoms are cruel and sometimes it hits someone really hard but without them this game would be boring as hell.
Imagine standings without the randoms. Boring?? 4 people fighting all within grasp of eachother.
It isn't boring now, but that isn't because of the randoms, that's despite the randoms.
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Quote ( Joachim Rang @ June 12th 2020,22:28:33 )
Randoms are cruel and sometimes it hits someone really hard but without them this game would be boring as hell.
Well in Elite randoms seem to be the ones to make it boring as hell...
How can you call this game boring as hell without randoms?
We have Driver Energy that Keeps the game open till the end, possible weather changes, normal tecnical Problems and in lower Tiers tyre or fuel miscalculations...
No is still not boring
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Quote ( Bert Huylebroeck @ June 12th 2020,22:15:17 ) Someone (I know who, but don't know if he wants his name attached to this) once wrote in forum: "Making such changes that only work help a small portion of managers while being unfair in design most of the time is not good game design I think."
That was me. And up until recently I've thought that randoms on the whole of it should be fairly neutral as you often benefit a bit from other people having them. I also thought that they disincentivized extreme OBP strategies (especially in this PHA matching era) because of the risk of it not working out, which is a positive in my book.
But as I think about it more and have realize how catastrophic they can be to managers for no apparent reason, I've realized they aren't fair because they don't affect all managers equally. And it's not just a case of absorbing the initial financial impact of it which can be covered off, especially when it comes to sponsors. Sure it helps to disincentivize some OBP strategies but it doesn't really address the issue of extreme PHA, something that could be dealt with better by addressing that directly. So I'm now of the opinion that terminal randoms at least don't really have a place in GPRO (obviously start crashing from too high risks doesn't count). I can see keeping random pits or fixable technicals which shouldn't cost as much but finishing 38th-40th at no fault of one's own is excessive.
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Quote ( Bert Huylebroeck @ June 12th 2020,22:32:09 ) Imagine standings without the randoms. Boring?? 4 people fighting all within grasp of eachother.
It isn't boring now, but that isn't because of the randoms, that's despite the randoms.
Well, if you're going to talk about removing randoms from the game, you have to consider all of the effects, not just the ones that suit you. Season planning would change, at least for some managers, because they wouldn't have to consider this financial risk anymore (and indeed that would make this aspect of the game more boring, which is what I think Joachim was getting at). Season standings without randoms are impossible to imagine because it would be a different game altogether.
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So do you guys enjoy to replan whole season because you drop out because of tyre puncture after 89% of the race while you expect a podium finish? I would prefer to invest my time to squeeze my money to get more performance out of my package in order to be 0.05x faster than my championship opponents instead of finding myself 8 points and 15M down because of luck.
Random is already part of the game: tyres and PHA being so unbalanced means that you will have to deal with OBPers randomly scoring points. Roland wins all races this way? It means he's the best manager then.
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Quote ( Andrea Squizzato @ June 13th 2020,01:11:41 ) So do you guys enjoy to replan whole season because you drop out because of tyre puncture after 89% of the race while you expect a podium finish?
You don't have to replain if you plan it this way from the beginning.
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Well I continuously try to find improvements in my plan, so if I end one race with lower wear than expected (drop out or start crash), I surely need to replan replacements.
If you were talking purely about money, then ok. But that's an easy part: just put some backup money on your budget and you'll be safe. If you got the money though.
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