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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ August 9th 2014,17:15:53 ) Clever, Mr T. :)
Will we see someone equalizing Schumi's record of 7 title, or maybe a new champ?
Can't wait for this season!
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Quote ( Kuba Szajbel @ August 9th 2014,12:56:55 ) Real or not Bernard Envain existed just to prepare a driver for Sho, anyone claiming otherwise either fools himself or others. Thing is, either Sho has a really good friend in France who decided to waste 24h of his precious lifetime raising a driver for him, or he cheated creating second accu out just for this purpose. Please, allow me not to share my opinion publicly :)
Bernard existed to prepare a driver. How can you know for who it was prepared?
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Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ August 9th 2014,17:33:01 ) Bernard existed to prepare a driver. How can you know for who it was prepared? Dude?! Didn't you see that Bernard directly transferred his driver to my account?!
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Quote ( João Monteiro  @ August 9th 2014,17:14:10 ) this thread is full of rookies or managers who have not earned the right to post here...
for those i make a request.
Please, leave it and go to your own group thread.
thank you.
How is Joana?
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Quote ( Michael Franks @ August 9th 2014,11:58:10 ) Allow me to put my 2 cents in, as I was in the group with Sho when he hired that driver. As per discussions in the group at the time, he had messed up his previous drivers extension due to not dropping enough MOT, so was forced into getting a new one when he had scored no retention points.
His OA was very low - Cant rmember what exactly, and the salary was SUPER CHEAP - (However that was achieved) He stuck him on high CT risk for some races at end of season when there were lots of smokers, and got the points he needed in that season. The rest is history.
I see nothing wrong with what he did here. I'd do the same if I could!
(Sho feel free to correct any of this) First off, thanks for standing up for me mate, even though we hadn't talked to each other in a long time. You're a true gent and the same can't be said for many in here! Your effort has gone to waste though as all these investigators have already passed the guilty verdict lol. Anyways, you're right, I had to drop the old driver due to moti issues. I actually missed a race (R2) which meant i couldn't lower motivation, which meant i had to drop him to get a new driver. Clearly the know-it-all investigators in here will gloss over that bit of info :{D
Quote ( Kuba Szajbel @ August 9th 2014,12:56:55 ) Real or not Bernard Envain existed just to prepare a driver for Sho Yeah, he lowered the salary and directly transferred the driver to my account. The stupidity of some people is just staggering!
Quote ( Daniel Comalada @ August 9th 2014,14:03:51 ) They both ended their activity and left the game at the same time, RIGHT before Sho got one of those drivers (S34R6). Or, they both got caught for being DA's at exactly the same time? How about the fact that this driver /gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=16274 had another french owner just after Bernard dropped it and now that French owner profile is deactivate? /gb/ManagerProfile.asp?IDM=382684
So another french DA? Here's another task for you...go and check Bernard's team and the related french family teams. A network of french DAs? Was Bernard really farming drivers for me or for the french multi accounter? Obviously such common sense is lost on you :{P
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You'll have a cheap championship season Joao. Enjoy :)
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Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ August 9th 2014,17:45:03 ) A network of french DAs
Ickx Team is a rather famous French megateam established in many racing games. Maybe there was one DA there, but these guys are very serious. I used to be in one of their team on another game and in no way they have a cheater mind.
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This sort of statement:
Quote ( Kuba Szajbel @ August 9th 2014,14:09:36 ) It's so painfully obvious to see what happened here that this sort of talk
Quote ( Kuba Szajbel @ August 9th 2014,14:09:36 ) I find insulting to my (and not just my) intelligence.
...proves that you deserve such insults.
Hiring a low salary driver is not cheating, even if someone else intended to cheat.
Finns silly comments dont even deserve a mention.
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#27361 Yayınlanma zamanı: 9 Ağu 2014, 17:51:15 (son değiştirilme 9 Ağu 2014, 17:53:39 kim tarafından: Ivan Silva)
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How can we be sure we're talking about a french guy? What if he really got caught and banned for setting wrong nationality? Or what if that "french" guy actually got caught farming and therefore got his ban in 7th Jan (same day as last log in from the guy Sho posted)?
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Tbh, Joao has some point....some of the posts that are being made here should be made either in another thread on the forum, or if there's a problem someone has about "cheating" it should be forwarded to the relevant direction AND NOT have accusations openly tossed about in a thread that is, primarily, for discussions about the Elite Group.
It doesn't mean nobody else can post that has something to say, but for sure it should be respected, imo, that outsiders who are not in Elite shouldn't be commenting on matters that are off-topic OR of a sensitive nature.
Just my opinion on that.
For the record, I think it's extremely rude some of the accusations being made towards Sho in the first instance, but in the second instance, they should not be made here.
Sorry for the long post guys.
Good luck to all in Elite this season :)
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Quote ( Ivan Silva @ August 9th 2014,17:51:15 ) Or what if that "french" guy actually got caught farming and therefore got his ban in 7th Jan?
Sounds like a reasonable assumption. Mr Shadow knows the answer....
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Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ August 9th 2014,17:45:03 ) Or, they both got caught for being DA's at exactly the same time? How about the fact that this driver /gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=16274 had another french owner just after Bernard dropped it and now that French owner profile is deactivate? /gb/ManagerProfile.asp?IDM=382684
So another french DA? Here's another task for you...go and check Bernard's team and the related french family teams. A network of french DAs? Was Bernard really farming drivers for me or for the french multi accounter? Obviously such common sense is lost on you :{P
Fair point.
Here's another ICKX French "guy":
- Philippe Skorupka:
/gb/ManagerProfile.asp?IDM=329096
Who farmed these 3 drivers:
- Paul Cannon:
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=9138
- Oliver Byrne:
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=21390
- Mauro de Cesaris:
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=6446
Just for the record, straight question and straight answer expected: Sho, do you deny having anything to do with the "guy" that farmed that driver of yours?
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Quote ( Mehdi El Fathy @ August 9th 2014,17:49:53 ) Ickx Team is a rather famous French megateam established in many racing games. Maybe there was one DA there, but these guys are very serious. I used to be in one of their team on another game and in no way they have a cheater mind. Funny how you have no qualms in acquitting a whole bunch of people so easily, except for that one guy (who directly transferred his driver to me). Prejudiced much?
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I had that Paul Cannon on my shortlist but never noticed that... Probably those were the so called "back-ups"...
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ August 9th 2014,17:52:38 ) some of the posts that are being made here should be made either in another thread on the forum
Everything comes from a statement that Sho did in this thread and belonged to this thread.
Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ August 7th 2014,19:26:32 ) If we consider performance to $ ratio, my driver is the best in the game :{P
Therefore the discussion is going on in this thread.
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Quote ( Daniel Comalada @ August 9th 2014,18:00:37 ) Fair point.
Here's another ICKX French "guy":
- Philippe Skorupka:
/gb/ManagerProfile.asp?IDM=329096
Who farmed these 3 drivers:
- Paul Cannon:
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=9138
- Oliver Byrne:
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=21390
- Mauro de Cesaris:
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=6446 Thanks a lot for digging up all those farmed drivers, i was just going to go and do that myself. Surely i wouldn't be farming sooo many drivers via this French Connection? Lol
I'm sure there are even more instances of these french driver farms.
Quote ( Daniel Comalada @ August 9th 2014,18:00:37 ) Just for the record, straight question and straight answer expected: Sho, do you deny having anything to do with the "guy" that farmed that driver of yours?
I don't know them and got nothing to do with them. I have always held them as DA's. Look here, for example:
Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ May 7th 2013,17:58:01 ) /gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=5605
:{)
As i told someone recently, its probably the only time i've appreciated what a DA adds to the game :{P
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Means he's not a real Ickx, thus he's a DA.
I guess we'll never know the truth, as for many things :/
But well if it's absolutely real and proven this guy has nothing to do with you, then it's fine, but it's a shame if you know that "guy".
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Personally, the good thing coming out of this discussion is I've learned a lot about how sad a few people in here are. Jumping in like a pack of wolves lol. Of course, I already knew that about one or 2 individuals as they have previous.
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Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ August 9th 2014,18:09:36 ) I don't know them and got nothing to do with them.
You got my vote. Sorry for raising suspicions on you.
Your movement paid off and you deserve success for it.
I guess that that farming system was deactivated back then and there's nothing more to investigate.
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Sometimes the badly of human beings is to think he is smarter than the next one...
i know hire a cheaper driver isn't a cheat, but it's just too obvious what happened there...
and all this thing get worst when u see more managers from the same team doing the same move...(and until this i thought it was a good team)
just a shame, this type of thing don't deserve any respect :/
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Quote ( Daniel Comalada @ August 9th 2014,18:16:05 ) You got my vote. Sorry for raising suspicions on you.Your movement paid off and you deserve success for it.
I guess that that farming system was deactivated back then and there's nothing more to investigate.
I honestly applaud you for looking more into it and saying sorry. It's quite obvious that something fishy was going on and that those involved most likely got caught by the shadow (I don't know for sure).
Anyone could have hired one of those drivers like Sho did without having to do something with them. Sho probably was just at the right place at the right time.
With that said, it would be appreciated if people could now drop this topic and enjoy a fun season.
Good luck to all of you :)
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Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ August 9th 2014,18:09:36 ) I don't know them and got nothing to do with them. I have always held them as DA's. Look here, for example:
That's alright then. Good driver finding. My apologies aswell..
Good luck for the season then. :)
And good luck to everyone!
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Quote ( Daniel Comalada @ August 9th 2014,18:16:05 ) You got my vote. Sorry for raising suspicions on you.
Your movement paid off and you deserve success for it.
It may not mean much to you, but thank you very much Daniel. Like Flo said earlier (and got a load of post dislikes for it...), curiosity and questioning is good.
Also thanks to the mods for allowing the discussion when they could have easily closed it right away.
Right then, tyres...everyone on pips then? (someone had to say it)
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I bring back my point: Joao, you will have a cheap championship season. The one that is too scared is you, not other managers which you consider have chances :P
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Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ August 9th 2014,18:30:12 ) It may not mean much to you, but thank you very much Daniel.
No doubt you deserved my apology :)
Quote ( Christoph Seifriedsberger @ August 9th 2014,18:23:23 ) With that said, it would be appreciated if people could now drop this topic and enjoy a fun season.
Well said :)
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oh it's finished. I'd better take it off my watch list again
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Quote ( Florencia Caro @ August 9th 2014,17:47:13 ) You'll have a cheap championship season Joao. Enjoy :)
I totally agree Flo.
Joao will have an easy title this season. I still believe that the next new champ will be Roland tough:)
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My apologies for throwing wood into the fire Shoaib. With these new facts I believe now you were only a lucky bastard in getting that driver..good luck in Elite, you deserve it!!
Over and out
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My bet too. But not this season. I do not underestimate Nikolai either :)
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Quote ( Florencia Caro @ August 9th 2014,18:34:16 ) I bring back my point: Joao, you will have a cheap championship season. The one that is too scared is you, not other managers which you consider have chances :P
I actually believe you'll be champ this season...
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